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Socialist Challenge No. 169, 23 October 1980 · p. 9 of the scan · 716 words

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Is visited several e new arms race which is perfectly obvious to any historical materialist. And in that situation they're not become more Soviet Union abandons nuclear weapons.

We can expect major frontations not West divide in Europe but in the third world, where there are no anes or marcauon and wnere a series of upheavals over the past tive vears has increased the sensi of competition between the two systems, and where the conflict is an active and in some places a hot Why did the Americans not invade Vietnam? have held down much of the territory, destroyed Hanoi, killed a couple of million people. Why didn't they do it? Vietnam The main reason their fear of the Tesistance.

Chinese which in the stages of the war was very doubtful anyway. reason is that such actions could have led to a confrontation with the USSR, which could have had very major consequences for the Ed iust ke to sav one more word about the revolutionary instincts of the Western European working class.

Quite frankly, I don't think that at this moment in time they are inat strong, ternational issues. the Soviet Union is The attachment to the cause of socialism, however down, is not too well established and in such a situation this is no cerence whatsoever determined onslaught. I may be wrong, but I would not bet on it.

Do you think that defending the right of the Soviet Union to possess nuclear weapons and to threaten to use them in the event of a nuclear attack means that we should defend every aspect weaponry? warfare, chemical weapons, nerve gasses weapons?

All the things that you mention are ones which themselves immoral and cannot stances and for which condoned pro-Soviet solute need demonstrated. I know this is an old debate. But unless you take a pacifist DUDOULL while at the same time trying to establish The use of such should be abjured in principle by socialist countries.

other the banning of napalm. that this is a step forward.

The demand has European Europe, put it tugal, and at first might appear to be a which attacks Soviet equally.

But disarmament be kery much in the of ITECTESLS Union? Despite the neutralist nuclear going to campaign, benevolentif the that it immensely positive? conalong the East- have an ly because itselt, be destroyed.

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especially on inHostility to very deej watered against imperialist Soviet Detente in trouble What about germ This and similar shadow boxing enables une are in circum- armaments. no abcan be military Europe. lave right to combat manoeuvre movement is rules.

• and thus tion I think these been raised Nuclear campaign for a that the they to Por- Soviets sight this demand European both sides wouldn't European tries fears.

the Soviet and pacifist retoric of the don't you think possible. will have an imperialist dynamic? Isn't it I think that this campaign will anti-imperialist dynamic. It is positive, not simpit is progressive in necessary. the left has ignored a question which is of no trivial significance • whether the world is going to Whatever the class character of that question, it is clearly not a secondary one. yield up As for the demand for Eurothink that it is a positive one, but that the future depends on what do. The USSR could play a positive rôle in encouraging this process by showwillingness to disarm vis-à-vis the US, if the US is will- the ing to do the same. Then I think Europe, would be in a much better to push for European cidentally the criticise the Rus sians for the fact that they don't assist those in the West who are doesn't chicourarc disarmament. First of all they don't pro vide any information about thei forces rave it, the reason they shouldn't supply other people ferent Europe. power SCOUCICO Union. information would enable an intelligent discussion to go on. At the moment, it's all that's what right get away with so much of their exaggeration about the level of Soviet East room 2101.

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